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		<title>By: Quo vadis, Planet-Punk.de? &#124; Planet-Punk.de</title>
		<link>http://info.michael-simons.eu/2007/06/21/ruby-on-rails-the-java-way-grails/#comment-6454</link>
		<dc:creator>Quo vadis, Planet-Punk.de? &#124; Planet-Punk.de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] F&#252;&#223;e zu treten, dass sie Antworten auf meine Posts geschrieben haben, so wie es mir mit Grails und RMagick gelungen [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Groovy on Grails &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Grails vs Rails Myth #1: Grails has a fraction of what Rails has to offer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Groovy on Grails &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Grails vs Rails Myth #1: Grails has a fraction of what Rails has to offer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this post the author proclaims boldly that Grails has a &#8220;fraction of RoRs functionality&#8221;. So in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rails and Grails revisited &#124; info.michael-simons.eu</title>
		<link>http://info.michael-simons.eu/2007/06/21/ruby-on-rails-the-java-way-grails/#comment-6328</link>
		<dc:creator>Rails and Grails revisited &#124; info.michael-simons.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stone mind &#187; Weighing in on Rails vs. Grails.</title>
		<link>http://info.michael-simons.eu/2007/06/21/ruby-on-rails-the-java-way-grails/#comment-6327</link>
		<dc:creator>stone mind &#187; Weighing in on Rails vs. Grails.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://info.michael-simons.eu/2007/06/21/ruby-on-rails-the-java-way-grails/#comment-6326</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Graeme,
wow, that&#039;s a fast replay from a developer... 

I&#039;m digging into grails right now.

Maybe i should clarify what&#039;s important for me at the moment:

Rails gives me a very convenient way to start an application with a minimum configuration needed, thus giving me focus on developing the app. If it was just for me, it&#039;s ok to dive deeply into configuring spring and all other j2ee thingies. 
But for my colleagues it&#039;s another thing. They just start to develop web applications. They need to learn a bunch of new things and there&#039;s a tendency to get lost in the j2ee configuration hell... (Hibernate isn&#039;t a problem in this context as we use it in several c/s applications). 

Many, many RoR functionalities are - at least for me - easier and more convenient to use.

But i think you&#039;re doing a great job bringing that stuff to J2EE. 

Last but not least, i finally have a reason to get them at my department into groov(y)... I think you&#039;ll agree with my that groovy is a great add-on to java :)

Have a nice day,
Michael.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Graeme,<br />
wow, that&#8217;s a fast replay from a developer&#8230; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m digging into grails right now.</p>
<p>Maybe i should clarify what&#8217;s important for me at the moment:</p>
<p>Rails gives me a very convenient way to start an application with a minimum configuration needed, thus giving me focus on developing the app. If it was just for me, it&#8217;s ok to dive deeply into configuring spring and all other j2ee thingies.<br />
But for my colleagues it&#8217;s another thing. They just start to develop web applications. They need to learn a bunch of new things and there&#8217;s a tendency to get lost in the j2ee configuration hell&#8230; (Hibernate isn&#8217;t a problem in this context as we use it in several c/s applications). </p>
<p>Many, many RoR functionalities are &#8211; at least for me &#8211; easier and more convenient to use.</p>
<p>But i think you&#8217;re doing a great job bringing that stuff to J2EE. </p>
<p>Last but not least, i finally have a reason to get them at my department into groov(y)&#8230; I think you&#8217;ll agree with my that groovy is a great add-on to java <img src='http://info.michael-simons.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Have a nice day,<br />
Michael.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Rocher</title>
		<link>http://info.michael-simons.eu/2007/06/21/ruby-on-rails-the-java-way-grails/#comment-6325</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Rocher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons I just didn&#039;t jump on the Rails bandwagen was because ActiveRecord has a fraction of Hibernate&#039;s functionality and Ruby has a fraction of the libraries available for Java and Rails has a fraction of the integration options and richness of Spring. So the statement that Grails has a fraction of what Rails has to offer is imo false.</description>
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